tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7826101215822428783.post5636374673518468584..comments2024-02-24T19:42:39.876+05:30Comments on Bill the Butcher: Sultan Erdogan and the Sukhoi 24Bill the Butcherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08436195659154078021noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7826101215822428783.post-38609980079544017112015-11-29T14:54:25.643+05:302015-11-29T14:54:25.643+05:30Yes of course. But as I've said elsewhere, ISI...Yes of course. But as I've said elsewhere, ISIS has proved perhaps a bit too successful, with franchises sprouting everywhere, even in countries like Bangladesh which weren't involved.Bill the Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08436195659154078021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7826101215822428783.post-4281404129578637462015-11-29T14:41:25.596+05:302015-11-29T14:41:25.596+05:30Good analysis & deeply troubling - the missile...Good analysis & deeply troubling - the missile the F-16 fired travels at a little over 1Km/Second so the F-16 must have been within 20KM range & most likely following the SU-24 out of the crew's visible range. Considering ISIS don't/didn't have (until Turkey) an air-force its totally reasonable that the Russian crew did not consider an air to air threat.<br /><br />If the F-16 pilot fired within 2 or even 17 seconds of the alleged violation of Turkish airspace it is certain that in all events the pilot had been given a shoot to kill pre-command as no 2 way communication was possible.<br /><br />My conclusion is this was a pre-planned ambush that only Erdogan could have sanctioned but I don't believe it is safe to say that he did not get prior permission from the US? Never forget the US created ISIS as a tool & Erdogan was/is profiting from stolen oil etc. so its a partnership.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064942299010240505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7826101215822428783.post-29436697336866864292015-11-28T10:37:23.305+05:302015-11-28T10:37:23.305+05:30I think sultan Erdogan has crossed a line he shoul...I think sultan Erdogan has crossed a line he should have kept away from. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. One headline at Sputnik news said a US General is calling for Turkey to be kicked OUT of NATO. It would be funny, to me for sue, if Turkey is hung out on its own over this incident. Putin/Russia will not ignore this. Your mention of Chechnya was very relevant to this mess. I can muster no compassion for Erdogan, he did this to himself. As I was taught way back in my distant youth, don't do the crime if you can't do the time. We all make mistakes, the thing is, own up to yours. Oh, and don't keep making the same mistake over and over. Once is all I was allowed. charlie ehlenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584863034307604847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7826101215822428783.post-22781123477425729772015-11-27T17:51:53.513+05:302015-11-27T17:51:53.513+05:30. . with you all the way on this one, Bill - apart.... . with you all the way on this one, Bill - apart from the bit about Cyprus. As an ex-1 Para squaddie I have a personal take and perhaps one day, time permitting, we can discuss the subject.<br />Best to you and want you to know how much I value your take on stuff.Alanhttp://archersofokcular.comnoreply@blogger.com